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Shenzhen mayor says that he still can't understand cloud computing

Article Category: Business

Author Name: Amanda xzh

March 28, 2007, "2011 Chinese IT leaders summit on March 28," held in shenzhen, the phoenix nets technology as a meeting of the strategic partners, the conference for the whole video, direct seeding. Shenzhen mayor attend "green hsu in the afternoon IT and computing clouds" speakers questions to the summit, says the cloud computing concept fuzzy, still can't understand cloud computing. Hoped relevant enterprises and entrepreneurs can give the public a clear concept, let the public better understanding of cloud computing.

This IT leaders summit with by the people's government sponsored digital China federation, with more than 60 domestic most influential and the rallying point IT enterprise leaders, investors and relevant government leaders attends congress, common around "transformation development: IT new mission" discuss this topic. More attractive, pay attention to the phoenix nets technology "2011 Chinese IT leaders summit" large-scale live TV project.

The following letter memoir:
Hsu: I asked a question, I morning when presides over the congress about, to let the public have a very clear cloud concept, don't you hear is cloud, heard later still clouds. You several told a cloud of related techniques, products, concept all speak well, if the cloud services if the now before our network services and put together, you think now clouds and past network services difference?

For example LiuJiRen teacher speak, we use health cloud, I'm through information technology and network configuration can put resources better transfer, serving more people, that everybody has an interactive, constitute the application for my health. In the past 10 years ago we grasping at remote medical, remote medical treatment itself is remote to mobilize resources, remote consultation is possible, this both and now the health clouds have what differentiation?

We now speak cloud services, cloud services and network application service have what differentiation? I feel inside this concept has quite big overlap, overlapping later will give the public a misunderstanding that bring infinite industry, clouds are actually rather part of the industry is exist, I made the cohesion, more technology, including the function increase network existence and processing data on network end, make a client more concise, convenient, cheaper, more widely, the difference between services over the past Internet service and speak it now among the cloud services have to distinguish? This has the broad sense and narrow sense, and network services, Internet services and now so-called cloud service relationship, I remember two years ago IT leaders summit is we the closing meeting I spoke, our industry should attach great importance to the development of cloud technology, the attention to its development direction and the future.

I think there is a meeting today BBS so say, portion everyone speak very cloudy, but do the application to the public have a replacement, clouds and past Internet application the difference between these two concepts in where, can bring industry value-added is what? Now that the technical development quick, we must follow the public have a good communication and interaction, and let investors know I threw what, don't take anything, used to be the old stuff is just wearing a new coat can't pitch in, if it's something new it, you can vote for it. Morning sleep jack ma said that, I think the Internet technologies, including emerging technology development speed, the information technology development and the development of Internet is a no end of fierce competition, if a nap will not know where, don't know who to answer this question, please you give a clear concept, thank you.

LiuErFei: your this question asked well, proof you for cloud has a profound understanding, at least I personally not explain, I will deliver all of five experts to further explain, if I can explain more clearly. I tell you what, in a few months ago TianSuNing in caijing made an article, I saw the leadership of the state council, icbc, CCB leadership most people have seen the article, say so far the cloud explained the concept of the most distinctly, you first brewing once, let xu throw bricks.

XuShaoChun: I think cloud services and back-office services make hardware service, make a lot of virtualization computing power to a wider audience for service, I personally think it is one of the features, and the traditional differences. Cloud computing have the biggest impact on industry is proposed software industry, the company is cloud computing software industry, because the enterprise to their business models produced change. The past by use of the software licensing fees according to the service, so now we are measuring, so a lot of business process fragmentation, finally let users to enjoy this service, becomes worth more low, so more so, further promote the Internet on the audience, users, this is my personal benefits the view.

TianSuNing: I'm from another Angle exchange with you vow mayor, network service and today cloud computing, no difference, we simply give an example is, there are ten VOD system in time, the past VOD services are very expensive, now U2, why so easy is through server virtualization of the importance and the structure of the changed the past, became very cheap, I think in the past are not the same, make cloud and calculation and storage cost greatly cheap. We see facebook companies such as 5 million users use what database, not in oracle's database, but with what server, kaiyuan is not important, because the software ability is very strong, the complex services are very simple, scattered all previous structure can't get away from the PC's architecture, now in addition to Windows besides Android can become a part of the user interface, so broke the past IT this structure, make the cost of computation transmission is very cheap, make application very popular, make the past VOD became very cheap.

LiuJi: I think the problem is very big xu mayor of service in the past, the clouds carrier without distinction, actually backend is different, let me give you an example, I used to do too much, do map and E-mail, most service contents, high-end and the bottom is, general than with 90% of the hardware is useless, most of the data center in less than 10%. So do just now virtualization, now do globalization, after virtualization can do reduce the cost at least one order of magnitude, is very, very important, there are many technology can do, in lower cost in the process can do many things. I introduced to TianSuNing a company, why I think China is very important, at least one order of magnitude drop the price on the speed, and innovation to each company with 70-80% of engineers in maintaining your server, rather than develop new functions, now new application platform, mostly 2-3 individual by 2, 3 months time, the pace of innovation made a lot faster.

China can use the opportunity to jump out of the United States by the distributed systems. I leave yahoo later visited more than 80 companies, I told the local VC said, no possibility, because no Shared cloud computing system, I think China can with the United States, relatively in with the policy of the government, enterprises of the inputs can jump the United States, as well as make China's telephone communications directly into the mobile, this is my opinion, question asked very big different, is back. If now have a map, tomorrow into France tomorrow is entered, not into it came out, if there is a mailbox into France need much time to run to the other side, to the whole of the development of software range is completely different. I think China's innovation is very strong, the younger generation of entrepreneurs many, together we can make the innovation ability, Chinese enterprises more strong than the United States.

TianSuNing: I might add, cloud computing backstage distributed budget is yahoo developed has now become a very important kaiyuan software, also become the Chinese proud of one thing.
WangYang: mayor problem ask very well, we look back at Thomas Edison invented the electric light bulb, and when is already there, but the popularity of 20 years, because there is no electric field and no wires, now in India and Africa some villages there was no popularization, no electricity, no light also say they are bright era, why so early before invention, now there is light, because wires to come. Ford invented car, car early invented, why then popularization, because there is no petrol station in China, China's auto without road industry boom, how much money the government broke down? Just have so much gas station, our application in the background would have developed, in kingdee early developed, why a, a sell, network and bandwidth no to this degree, but today has matured, we put in the clouds can be used immediately, time has come, this is also why the Chinese cloud computing special hot.

XieQing: I'm from different angles, because I do network security for 20 years, from different angles. Answer hui mayor Previously network services and now before the cloud, the function of network mainly provide links, like how control link before a company? What kind of people can link, what person can't link, like a plane flying over Tokyo for the whole plane, according to link a radiation, the whole plane all don't let into. Now to see the cloud computing, the content inside the application of what is what is inside, see everyone is there radiation. Or when the spread of SARS, influenza, from there over all don't let into, this is the key, and cloud before age will have in airport detection this man have a fever, any infectious virus from safe Angle, I look at this problem. Now the Internet have everyone connected the application software, links up, and former network control time see the contents, have the virus, spam, any invasion from this level fishing websites, watch content layer, which is from safe Angle answer network era and now before the cloud era.

Hsu: thank you very much, everybody answer very exciting. LiuJi do technical explanation, can I so understanding, because of all of the public needs to have a sexual concept to understand speech cloud.
A, cloud based framework and clouds of the past and the Internet and network architecture, it should be said, is the past Internet and basic network architecture, because the original completely enclosed said, without the server to do background support, and simple network transmission is the original form of the concept of the clouds, actually came out the basis and architecture before cloud already exists.

Second, now able to pursue cloud is open, or everyone in Fried the concept, the many applications are said to be cloud, because the current software, our current network, bandwidth and our rich application prompted the whole cloud can from concept to reality to be achieved. For example VOD this business is actually the mid 1990's communications everybody in a chase high technology, I was in North America it's time as a study in development, I also followed a period of time, then give supreme leader propaganda, all communications companies are considered the most advanced technology, the smaller the fry VOD later. Just TianSuNing said the concept of using the cloud and network technology support the concept, but the so-called cloud services and network concept very different places are the current network, bandwidth achieved a market or meaning the development of industrial significance stage, this is the second I want to clear.

Third, in fact we now use cloud technology, actually computing clouds and cloud services or different, used for cloud concept of the entire network actually strengthened the support functions, computing functions, storage function, the data, calculation, network, public support all aspects of more centralized, more improved conditions, the client thin come down, make the client is very simple. Morning they speak, I ever want a thing, a little came out, the function of the reinforced the network. The client offers very easy low cost, quick service.
The three characteristics on the cloud, it is clear of the past and network technology, network applications, network service, certainly compared some technical explanation, I think for public explain more clearly, otherwise everybody is in the clouds, wake up, asleep or is clouds cloud, thank you.

WuYing: make the mayor this problem is to give IT leaders, people didn't hear words we the gang when idiot, I'm not saying you idiot, I use a word, cloud technology development the future with computing and storage all relevant application have become as simple and convenient, tap water is this words.
LiuErFei: I'm sorry, this time I was happily say, we discuss a very warm, actually to the last tache host function violated, the mayor's intervention of dialogue, and guests are very enthusiastic, very dialogue that is the ultimate goal of host, I "waste" I feel very proud.

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